Random Comments, Late 2020 Edition

Same as the previous series of Random Comments threads (which have each been closed to further commenting because they’ve gotten too long), this will be accessible from a link in the left sidebar (under “triple-line” icon 1st tab).

Please remember that this is intended for public comics-related (or comics semi-related) comments only: if you want to send the editors a CIDU, or a comic for some specific folder (Ewww, Oy, etc), or you want to inform us of a typo, please e-mail us at 4imageonline-co-textimage.  “Comics-semi-related” may in practice include your observations on life and language… But not politics, puh-leese!

However, as an experiment starting in October 2020, we will be trying out a second, parallel open comments thread, for a specific area of topics: ideas for how to maintain or develop this site.   Look for the link in the left sidebar (under “triple-line” icon 1st tab).  The headnote for the first Site Comments is HERE

Also: A list of the site’s most recent comments can be found in the left sidebar (under “folder” icon 2nd tab). A database of all the comments, compiled by larK, is here.

And the site’s FAQ is here.


  1. @ Andréa – My eyes were not able to read the year un assisted, I had to open the image in a new tab and zoom in.

  2. Hey, we didn’t try to guess the literary costume deal in Frazz this year!
    Well, it wasn’t very clueful.
    Here was the answer:

  3. Even more disturbing from a “comics” perspective is the retirement of Tom Toles, who besides working for decades as a political cartoonist in Buffalo and then in Washington, was also the author of two good, but limited run comic strips: “Curious Avenue“, and “Randolph Itch, 2 am“. I will miss Tom nearly as much as I already miss Bill.

  4. @ Mitch4 – I liked both of those links very much, but decided not to risk including them in my message, for fear of treading over CIDU’s “politics” boundary. That was also the reason that I linked his name to Wikipedia, rather than GoComics.

  5. . . . which reminds me that I regret we aren’t posting ‘non-political election’ comics [altho I never saw the announcement that we weren’t doing so], as I’ve seen several that would, I believe, qualify for that theme.

  6. Andréa, I don’t recall anything like a ban on comment comic inclusions on the topic. Just a retraction of a call for submissions to be editorial posts.

  7. @ Andréa – For instance, today’s “Mutts” surprised the heck out of me when I first saw it this morning:

    P.S. @ Danny Boy – I think the call retraction was a very wise decision. That “Mutts” was the only election-related comic I’ve seen that was safely non-partisan, although there was an old “Bloom County” strip that indulged in bi-partisan (equal-opportunity) abuse:

  8. I would say I’ve seen at least five election-related but non-partisant comics in the past two weeks or so, but I didn’t send or save all of them.

  9. PS: Unless they are requested, I won’t send any more of the non-partisan election comics I’m coming across as I’m going thru my feeds . . . I’ve already seen five others so far.

  10. Thanks, Kilby!

    My comment was mostly prompted by the serendipity of it, of course, since I just happened upon that “Liberty Meadows” and noticed the word.

  11. And of course Plastic Man’s old sidekick was named Woozy Winks, so I see the word multiple times whenever I read a PLASTIC MAN comic reprint. (Which I do, now and then.)

  12. I am strongly in favor of keeping the left-side menus as simple as possible, but I think it would be useful to maintain a reference of all the “Random Comments” pages that have been provided since CIDU Bill re-launched the page at the beginning of 2018. The Editors are welcome to move this list (from Moderation) to a more appropriate location:

    (1-Oct-2020) Random Comments, Late 2020 Edition
    (This is the “current” edition of “Random Comments”, posted by “EditorM”.)

    (undated) Jan-Oct 2020 Your Random Comments
    (This post has no author listed, and no comments: it could [and should] be deleted.)

    (30-Jan-2020) Random Comments, 2020 Edition
    (CIDU Bill’s last “random comments” post: it contains many pages of discussion about how to continue CIDU after his passing on 16-Sep-2020.)

    (6-Jun-2019) The All-New Random Comments Page for the Summer of 2019
    (This post grew to 302 comments before Bill shelved it.)

    (27-May-2019) The New Random Comments Page
    (This meta post has 66 comments about the random comments page, plus a link to the entry below. Technically it is still accepting new comments: this should probably be fixed.)

    (undated) Random Comments 2019
    (no author listed: this was probably an abandoned transitional attempt [it contains a link to the “first” page, below]. Like the entry above, this page is still accepting new comments, and should be closed.)

    (1-Jan-2018) The Page Formerly Known as Random Comments
    (This was Bill’s first “Your Random Comments” page after the server meltdown at the end of 2017.)

  13. @Kilby thanks for the idea and the long lists of links. I’ll tend to the “turning off comments on disused threads” right away — good catch!

    It’ll take a little more time to dig out from under that avalanche and turn it into a page or something like that, which can be linked in the “hamburger” tab menu. Will it be clear which version you really intend? Are your descriptions (on at least one version) intended to be included in the published page, or are they submission annotations?

  14. @ Mitch4 – I included the descriptions mostly to make it easier to distinguish between the entries. The second attempt (posted to site comments) is marginally “cleaner”, but a lot of the verbiage could be removed for a simpler list. (The “plain URLs” version was only a desperate attempt to sidestep the spam filter, and should be deleted).
    In addition to disabling comments on all the older posts, the second entry should be deleted entirely. The second to last (undated) item on the list was sort of “orphaned”, and has only 17 comments. I have no idea how easy it is to shift comments between posts, but if it is easy, those 17 could be moved to the one above it (27-May-19), so that the undated post could be removed, leaving just five, instead of seven.

  15. @Kilby, thanks again for your suggestions. A number of them mentioned here we had implemented already earlier today, shortly after your original messages.

    Some of the differences you note between the various threads — such as whether an author is shown, or a date — seems to be due to whether they come from a Page or a Post. Bill went back and forth on which to use, and I don’t really have a clear idea either on which works better.

    The essentially empty one, as you note, serves nothing, and indeed has been removed or something like that (I think “revert to Draft status” was the easiest).

    Yes, that seemingly isolated short thread is puzzling. I think Bill was trying out ideas on how to switch over from one thread to another, and this was an abandoned first try. Nonetheless, people posted to it, and though there is nothing immortal in the comments, it’s no less real than the others, and probably should stay in the list. There may or may not be a way to transfer comments from one Page or Post to another, but I have no idea how that would be done.

    Please be patient on expecting to see the list posted.

    Thanks again for the careful survey of these things.

  16. I keep forgetting this thread is over here, but it is the most appropriate for this comment. For all you Piraro fans (Bizarro) he has a new serial web comic called Peyote Cowboy at peyotecowboy.net. It is still fairly new, so you can catch up on all the episodes in short order. The story is interesting, so far, and the the artwork is up to his high standards. I suppose a plus is that there are no easter eggs, or whatever he calls those things.

  17. I’ve been viewing it since its inception, and it’s well worth a looksee. The story is strange (or bizarre, appropriately enough) and the artwork is wonderful.

  18. Guero and Andréa, thanks for prompting me to go ahead and get started on Peyote Cowboy. I read both Piraro’s and Wayno’s weekly blogs, and they’ve been promoting it for weeks and weeks now, but something has been holding me back. (I suppose because I’ve never been into the Old West mythos.) But you convinced me to go ahead, and I read all of Chapter 1 just now. Very appealing, very digestible. (And no Secret Symbols.)

  19. @ Mitch4 – On all the pictures in that collection, the building with the offset windows was the only one that did not seem incredibly stupid. In fact, I think there is a (very small) amount of brilliance in making each apartment just a little bit different from all the others. We’re not talking about “Hundertwasser” quality here, but if all the windows had been in two simple columns, the building would have looked even more like a prison than it already does.

  20. One of the pundits I watch on YouTube (‘Justice Matters’, with Glenn Kirschner, in case anyone is interested) has his law degrees, licenses, whatevers as his background. One was crooked and, OCD as I am about something like that, I kept being distracted. I mentioned it in his comment section and, two days later, it was straightened out and I could concentrate on what he was saying.

    (One commenter replied with the usual non-helpful, ‘Get a life’, but obviously, I have one. It just has to have its edges straight, that’s all.)

    So, I’d never be able to live in that apartment complex ’cause I’d be bothered every time I came home and looked at that façade.

  21. One of the procedure rooms at my dentist’s office looks out on a part of the neighborhood which has had some high-concept rebuilding going on – notably from the “Studio Gang”. https://studiogang.com/people/jeanne-gang . One is pictured below. I’ve never been able to really manage reading material while waiting in the procedure chair, and nowadays it is forbidden. So I have enjoyed looking out at these buildings. You can’t quite tell from this picture, but this building has a subtle repeating pattern of the two kinds of open or closed juncture, requiring FIVE rows and I forget how many units across to get the tiling element.

    But the one earlier, while it could be appreciated under the case you make for it, just looks like it is so wrong it needs to be knocked into line!

  22. While I don’t quite agree with Kilby that the window design of the building is good, I do find it the “least bad” of the designs on that (very funny) page that mitch linked to.

  23. @Andrea on Gocomics — I never did see an overall article or explanation, but noticed remarks here and there. Reply-All and Reply-All-Lite are gone, archives and all. Frog Applause, which I am very fond of, was going to be cancelled, but there was a fan outcry and it was saved. During that period when it looked to be ending, the artist put out several retrospectives and assemblages of “best of” though she wouldn’t call it that. Her other, very different, project “Shoecabbage” did get the axe. I’m uncertain about “Lay Lines” — archive seems to still be there, but there was not a weekly new one this Monday.

  24. I wouldn’t want to live in the window building just in case it wasn’t intentional.

    As for GoComics removing comics from its site, I wouldn’t blame them for removing MythTickle. Almost all the comics are repeats.

  25. That one looks more like well-designed staggering.The first one the staggering is so small that it makes it look like a mistake (whether or not it actually was).

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