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  1. Ms Foxx doesn’t have the kind of sophisticated palate to appreciate sauerkraut and peanut butter pizza, as Duane does.

    Or rather, Duane is the sort of person who likes what’s trendy, no matter how horrifying it is, because he doesn’t think for himself even in the most obvious situations. Ms Foxx realizes that this is all actually terrible ideas, and leaves.

    For what it’s worth, I think that, while pork chops with maraschino cherries, i.e. the fake bright red ones, would be horrible, pork chops with Luxardo candied marasca cherries would be pretty darned good. The bright red things are kind of a fake version of the Luxardo ones. Prune soup is, of course, a pretty normal dish.

    I am not sure how to make sauerkraut and peanut butter pizza good. I could probably make a decent kimchi and ground peanuts pizza, and could CLAIM success on technicalities, but actual sauerkraut and peanut butter might be beyond my abilities.

  2. I wouldn’t say that prune soup is on my “pretty normal” list, but Ian’s version of cherry pork chops does sound quite good!

  3. There are a number of subtle clues that might be missed by people who don’t read “Barney & Clyde”. Both her hairdo and his rattail indicate that this is a very early strip (the date is nearly illegible, but it turns out to be 30-Dec-2010). The primary issue is that since he is getting away with calling her “Foxxy”, this is almost certainly supposed to by one of her “nightmare” experiences with him, such as just occurred last Saturday:

  4. P.S. It doesn’t matter whether she is actually in a restaurant or sleeping in her own bed. All three of the dishes she reads off the menu sound like real nightmares to me.

  5. Thanks, Kilby. For me, the main CIDU was why she was willing to go out to a restaurant with him.

  6. I’d certainly try sauerkraut and peanut butter pizza if offered a slice or two, but I probably wouldn’t splurge on buying or making an entire pie myself until I did so. (I like both ingredients, so it’s possible I’d like the duo — I might like it even if it used creamy peanut butter, instead of my usual crunchy.) And pork chops with cherries (any sort) sounds actually very tempting to me.

    I want no part of the prune soup, though.

  7. “Binging with Babish ” – Some people eat to live, others live to eat. WAAAAY too much focus on food/work.

    WHY did she go to a restaurant with him? Perhaps, if this is an early strip, she didn’t yet know what a jerk he really is.

  8. For those of you who don’t read “Wallace the Brave:
    1) Gary is Spud’s semi-imaginary butler friend, who regularly shows up at the most unexpected times to offer him a sandwich. Spud is always hungry, and usually willing to eat just about anything:

    2) Go ahead and add “Wallace the Brave” to your daily link list. If you don’t like it, you can always delete it after a week, but I’m betting that most of you won’t.

  9. None of those items seem unreasonable to me. A little daring and maybe a bit contrived, but I would certainly try all of them. As ianosmand said, you’d want Luxardo candied marasca cherries, not the fake ones. Pork works well with sweetness. Ham with pineapple or a honey glaze. Bacon with maple syrup. I myself have made pork jobs with a raspberry sauce and that was good. Prune soup might be good. I guess it would depend on the spices in it. As for sauerkraut and peanut butter, I’d remind y’all that peanuts are a staple of cooking in a lot of places, including Southeast Asia, where I have a lot of experience with them in my food. Next time you’re in kitchen make yourself a peanut butter and onion sandwich. Put some bacon on there if you like. Sadly, Mrs. SingaporeBill has developed a peanut allergy so I don’t get to enjoy them anymore.

  10. “The primary issue is that since he is getting away with calling her “Foxxy”, this is almost certainly supposed to by one of her “nightmare” experiences with him, such as just occurred last Saturday:”

    “Thanks, Kilby. For me, the main CIDU was why she was willing to go out to a restaurant with him.”

    First point, she seems to like being called Foxxy. She doesn’t like people using, or even knowing, her given name. (As we discussed recently)

    Second point, she does regard Duane as a close friend, albeit an annoying one. They often go out to a bar together. She even acts as his wingman when he tries to pick up women. I see nothing unusual about them going to a restaurant together. She has, however, made it clear that there is no possibility of a romantic relationship.

    As for the menu, I’d certainly try it. It might not turn out to be to my taste, but there again it could be great.

  11. “Sadly, Mrs. SingaporeBill has developed a peanut allergy so I don’t get to enjoy them anymore.”

    Why? Is she affected if you have them?

  12. One dish I prepare regularly (it was originally one from Hello Fresh) is pork chops with cherry balsamic glaze. It works well with chicken breasts too.That uses cherry jam rather than maraschino cherries.

  13. I eat a lot of peanut butter combos. PB and bananas, PB and raisins, PB and extra sharp cheddar, PB and mustard. Today I tried honey mustard, and I liked it quite well.

    No, I haven’t been to the grocery store in a while. Why do you ask?

  14. Andréa, allergic reactions can be severe, to the point of anaphylaxis that leads to death. I did continue to use the peanut butter I had in the house when she first got her diagnosis and we didn’t have any incidents, but I was always concerned. There was the concern of cross-contamination and there are documented cases of people with nut allergies dying from kissing someone who has eaten peanuts. https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/killed-by-a-kiss-woman-s-death-prompts-new-concerns-about-severe-peanut-allergies-1.2935902

    I’d just as soon not have the stress. I love her more than nuts. We use this spread made from sunflower seeds. https://www.amazon.ca/Sunbutter-Original-Natural-454-gm/dp/B00DTGBHTK/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-p13n1_0?cv_ct_cx=sunbutter&dchild=1&keywords=sunbutter&pd_rd_i=B00DTGBHTK&pd_rd_r=c3b64827-b932-4d10-a6e6-65a0ed5a1971&pd_rd_w=OBs33&pd_rd_wg=cK0Hq&pf_rd_p=5dc9bb73-73b1-4abd-a228-ac5c707beb7e&pf_rd_r=5CDV8VJBB8003NB6EN31&psc=1&qid=1593467922&sr=1-1-70f7c15d-07d8-466a-b325-4be35d7258cc

    It tastes pretty good.

  15. Inspired by this comic, I dug out the recipe and will be making Grilled Pork Chops With Cherry Sauce later this week. Made with fresh cherries.

  16. I miss my late mothers pulled pork prepared with apricot juice.
    And as for peanut butter, we used to have it in grilled cheese sandwiches, or with bacon in a sandwich. Haven’t had either in years as well.

  17. Incidentally, I just did a quick search of some of the recipe websites, and while searching on “prune soup” mostly turns up chicken or duck soups with prunes, rather than prunes as the main ingredient, I did find both a Moroccan prune-lentil soup and a Polish prune soup with dumplings that both sounded pretty good. I am mostly familiar with it as a chilled amuse-bouche pureed fruit sort of thing, but those are both noted as being good warm.

    I am just checking this out because our plum tree has decided to make this be its RIDICULOUSLY MANY PLUMS year, and they’re the smaller damson plums that people dry into prunes rather than the big round ones that people eat fresh. I mean, you CAN eat them fresh, and usually do, then soak the rest in alcohol and make a sort of slivovitz variation. Real slivovitz is, of course, the plums fermented and distilled; we just make a fake version by infusing vodka with plums, but it’s still good.

    But it looks like it’s possible that we’re gonna have TOO MANY PLUMS this year, so I’m trying to get ahead of the game with ideas.

  18. Hubby developed a peanut allergy at age 65, severe enough to end up in ER; he now carries an EPI pen at all times. However, his allergist never warned that I, too, should not be eating peanuts (or any tree nuts), or even have any in the house. So far, so good, but a good idea to be forewarned.

    I’ve been looking for a replacement and will try the sunflower spread (well, HE will).

  19. Andréa, there are a number of non-peanut spreads, but peanut allergy people (like Mrs. SingaporeBill and Mr. Andréa maybe) will have allergies to other nuts too, so an almond butter or the like doesn’t help. Mrs. SingaporeBill also developed an allergy to soy, so the alternative spreads that use soy are no good for us. And if you want to make a Chinese person sad, make them allergic to soy.

  20. I ordered a variety pack of the soy spread; Hubby will have to call his allergist to see if they’re ok. I still don’t understand how an allergy to peanuts, which aren’t even nuts, can also lead to an allergy to tree nuts.

    Last week, Hubby accidentally bought four pints of Ben & Jerry’s non-dairy product (instead of the 2-for-1 B & J ice cream). I wondered, out loud, what they are made of if not dairy . . . sure ’nuff, it was almond ‘milk’. I now have four pints of B & J’s non-dairy treats to myself. I actually like the faint taste of almond they have. Good thing he looked before tasting.

  21. Late in life, I developed a slight allergy to peanuts. I have no problem with tree nuts. I went from peanut butter to Costco’s multi-nut butter (which has no peanuts).

    I have read that many with peanut allergies also have tree-nut allergies. But it’s not all of us.

  22. The good news is you can become unallergic too. Though nobody knows the how or why. It’s like you’re playing some deadly lottery.

  23. @ Andréa – “… his allergist never warned that I, too…
    Airlines reportedly will change an entire flight from peanut snacks to pretzels whenever even one passenger reports a peanut allergy beforehand. I thought this was a major overreaction, until I witnessed an elderly gentleman open one of those little bags by ripping it open, distributing a cloud of peanut shrapnel across three or four rows of seats. Although most dangerous peanut allergies are triggered by “consuming”, there are isolated cases in which simple “contact” is enough.

  24. P.S. I cannot recall a single instance in which Ms. Foxx reacted positively to the nickname “Foxxy” (or to Duane in general). I won’t go so far as to claim it never happened, but unfortunately the “Barney & Clyde” archive at GoComics is not keyed with any dialog text, which makes in nearly impossible to find examples (either way).

  25. “It’s like you’re playing some deadly lottery.”

    I wouldn’t dare suggest that Hubby ‘just try some peanuts, dear’ after his last experience in ER. I wonder sometimes if, because he really LOVED peanuts and peanut butter, he induced his own allergy.

  26. With peanuts (or soy, for that matter), you are playing a deadly lottery. The stuff is in all kinds of foods so you have to be diligent in checking labels. The other part of the lottery is that anyone can develop an allergy at any time. Mr. Andréa should check in with his allergist from time to time to see if he’s still allergic. Mrs. SingaporeBill got unallergic to several things on her last check.

  27. I went through elementary school and junior high having half a peanut butter sandwich for lunch – no jelly, just PB. Exception is if there was school the day leading to the first Passover Seder at night when one cannot eat bread or matzoh or peanut butter. Mom would send me hard boiled eggs for lunch that day. (In high school I volunteered in an office in the school and skipped lunch.)

    We don’t really eat lunch home in normal times unless there is a weather problem (hurricane, snowstorm…) so we can’t go out. I do keep two jars of peanut butter in the house – one crunchy and one smooth, the new crunchy is too crunchy so I use a mix, for when we do eat home or snack is needed.

    I went into stay home with part of a jar of each – I spread it very thin to make it last – full sandwich these days – and it lasted until from late March until the end of the end of May. When we ordered food from BJs in mid May Robert insisted on ordering more PB for me – they only had smooth and he ordered two jars – 48oz each!. On one of our two orders from Walmart he ordered yet another 2 jars of 40 oz each. I am still on the first of the replacement jars. Depending on how many years we are stuck in the house I may never have to buy peanut butter again.

    I am thinking of finding the Colonial Williamsburg recipe for Peanut Soup, which as I recall is made with peanut butter, and making some for him to use some of it up.

    (He also bought me 3 boxes of 100 teabags each and I still had 60 bags when he did so – almost a year’s worth of tea bags in the house at one time!)

  28. @ Meryl A – The prohibition against peanuts during Passover might be an orthodox / conservative / reform issue, but it could also be just a maternal decree. A friend of mine (whose family kept kosher) nevertheless used to get PB&J on matzoh during Passover. As she described it, the problem was that after biting into a PB&J on matzoh, one is suddenly holding three PB&Js on matzoh, and after a second bite, one is then left juggling five PB&Js on matzoh, and so on. I wouldn’t be surprised if some parents looked around for more convenient kosher alternatives.

  29. Kilby, before comigeddon, someone asked, “Who can tell me why you can eat peanut oil but not peanut butter?” and Bill replied, “very briefly it’s because peanuts can sprout while peanut oil can’t. Not every rabbinical authority agrees; but if every rabbinical authority ever agrees on anything, that would be one of the signs of the Apocolypse.”

  30. At first, I thought this was a reference to a NYTimes column by David Brooks, July 11 2017, “How we are ruining America”. He humble-humbles (not humble-brags) that he insensitively took somebody with a high-school education to a gourmet sandwich shop. There, she was apparently overwhelmed by the fancy names (padrino, pomodoro, etc), and they fled to a Mexican establishment. But we are assured that the strip is 10 years old. Oh, merde!

  31. Peanuts are kitniyot, which historically, were OK for Sephardic Jews, but not OK for Ashkenazi Jews. A few years ago, the Conservative movement decided that kitniyot are OK for Ashkenazi as well (link).

    But my wife still doesn’t let me make rice during Passover. 😦

  32. @ Keera – Is that the most recent book you purchased, or did you write one and not bother to tell us about it?

  33. Kilby – No peanuts allowed per the teacher in Hebrew School.

    Winter Wallaby – Yeah, they have made a lot of changes over the years, but (and this being despite the fact that I not only do not keep kosher and have a husband who is Roman Catholic) some things just stick with one and no peanuts is one of them. This year I had did have peanut during during Passover as we had not been keeping the house heavily stocked with food as we normally ate lunch out (at Wendys – same meal daily) every day and only had dinner at home 4 nights a week – and shopped for one to two dinners at time. So when we went into stay home – we had to eat what was here. Luckily I had a full box and a started box of Matzoh left from last year (and normally I would not have eaten same this year as it is was kosher for last Passover, but no longer is for this Passover) to work with and my Seder was even odder than normal this years with a single piece of broccoli being divided up and used for most of the Seder plate (ceremonial) items.

  34. @ Meryl A – Was your teacher orthodox or conservative? My informant’s family was nominally conservative, but in practice exceedingly reform.

  35. Conservative and Reform – family belonged to conservative congregation and then switched to a reform one when I was in junior high so my education started at the one and ended at the other. I myself go to a reform congregation these years.

  36. Yesterday I saw somewhere a cartoon involving mention of “menu” and I meant to remember where it was and post here.
    But what if it was right here (on CIDU anyway, not necessarily on the present thread, where I don’t see it)?

    Should I attempt to recount it in words? Hmm, I won’t get the pun sentence right, and there is no visual impact, but maybe it will be enough to remind someone else who saw it and can find to improve my description and/or link it in.

    So: Two panels (or one, split with wavy vertical), mostly identical. A probably suburban family has gotten seated at a booth in a diner or quick-service restaurant, maybe at an interstate highway rest stop. The dad is looking at a menu, and the young female server stands by the booth.
    The man asks (to his family?) “Anything on the menu talk sweet to looks good?” And the server responds “None of your business what the men I talk sweet to look like!”.
    I didn’t make the syntax work right there. But the key point was when he says “the menu talk to” and she replies in terms of “the men I talk to”.

  37. Well, of course you don’t — and neither do I! Because I don’t recall what it was, and wasn’t able to reconstruct something that works. Sorry I got long-winded and didn’t make that clear.

    His line needs to be of a form like “AUX the menu VERB …?” so that she can hear “AUX the men you VERB …?” and respond a little sharply.

    Now, AUX can’t be DO as we would probably have a number-concord problem: “Does the menu” but “Do the men you” … Let’s suppose it’s CAN or WILL.

    My memory of her riposte was that it didn’t cast the man’s remark as overtly flirting, just perhaps personal. I’m remembering something like “Never you mind what the men I treat nicely like..” — but there is no way to get that in the “menu” version and keep making sense.

  38. Yay! Arthur, you are a champ!

    This must be circulating as a meme. I know the image I saw with it was different, as I described earlier.

    The solution to the grammar dilemma was that “menu VERB” is not at the beginning, and also that the word there can function as something other than a verb

    Phew! The hunt is over. Besides reviewing all the comics I saw in regular places, I even scan-rewatched the episode of “Search Party” that I watched yesterday.

  39. This doesn’t work for me: there is a pause between ‘the menu’ and ‘please’ but none between ‘the men you’ and ‘please’. Actually, I’d add a comma: ‘the menu, please’.

  40. Oh, it’s not perfect! But good enough to work as a joke, I thought.

    What differences I think I hear even more than right before “please” are something about the shape of the attack on “men” and the juncture of “men” with “you” (or ‘u’!).

    Speaking of which, there’s a habit or manner that I find sort of irritating, but don’t know if it’s especially American, or especially modern. It could be described as following a prescribed form-of-words to enact politeness (with “please” and even more “thank you”), but not quite making the tone sound like a genuine request or expression of gratitude. And this example helps describe it!
    The tone I’m griping about could be heard if you listened to somebody saying “could I see the menu please” without the comma, as Olivier characterizes it, and maybe also an up-tone at the end (but not the “question” contour). Which could also be trick-described by saying “men you please” to give the pacing and tones to “menu please”. There’s a little bit of stress on the “please” which makes it suspect!

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