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  1. (I don’t see “not a CIDU”.)

    People sometimes call a romance from different social strata “a Cinderella story”. Or more broadly an unexpected advancement from humble origins — as with a sports team or player doing great in the finals after a bad start in the regular season.

    The squirrel is applying this expression to the depiction in the main comic of the actual Cinderella tale, humorously updated?

  2. The joke (from the squirrel) is that “Cinderella story” has other meanings, but here the meaning is just “literally a story about Cinderella.” The squirrel’s remark doesn’t need to make sense with the other meanings.

  3. Right, the joke is that it is the Prince experiencing the Cinderella story. In this case a sports term that means “achieving far greater success than would ordinarily be expected.”

  4. It is the Cinderella story. He has just tried the glass slipper on her foot. But in this version has a modern twist where she is less that impressed and is angry at him for not calling or even recognizing her from last night.

  5. I like it simply for pointing out something that always bugged me about the story – that supposedly no other women in the kingdom wear the same size shoes as Cinderella.

  6. From wikipedia, about the “glass slippers”:

     Some interpreters, perhaps troubled by sartorial impracticalities, have suggested that Perrault's "glass slipper" (pantoufle de verre) had been a "squirrel fur slipper" (pantoufle de vair) in some unidentified earlier version of the tale, and that Perrault or one of his sources confused the words; however, most scholars believe the glass slipper was a deliberate piece of poetic invention on Perrault's part.[24] 
    

  7. Arghh, that didn’t work so well!
    Trying to avoid the weirdness of blockquote.

     Some interpreters, perhaps troubled by sartorial impracticalities,
     have suggested that Perrault's "glass slipper" (pantoufle de verre)
     had been a "squirrel fur slipper" (pantoufle de vair) in some
     unidentified earlier version of the tale, and that Perrault 
    or one of his sources confused the words; however, most 
    scholars believe the glass slipper was a deliberate piece
     of poetic invention on Perrault's part.[24] 
    

  8. I always figured there was some magical element to the slipper, so that while others might have the same size foot, it would only fit on Cinderella’s foot.

  9. beckoningchasm: If so, the magic is pretty glitchy, since in Grimm’s version, the two stepsisters are each able to get the slipper to fit by the simple expedient of cutting off part of their foot.

    This makes the prince seem even stupider, since not only is he unable to recall what Cinderella looked like the night before, but doesn’t notice all the blood dripping from the foot and slipper until some helpful birds points it out.

  10. I always felt that Cinderella was so dainty that there WEREN’T any other woman with her show size.

  11. beckoningchasm, the “magical element” makes a lot of sense. I’d never heard anybody mention this before, but it certainly needs to be edited in.

  12. Ignoring the impossibility of fabricating a wearable shoe out of glass (back then as well as now), at the time the story was set (and recorded), all shoes were custom made for the wearer, and were therefore much more individualistic than the mass-market products we have today.
    The “helpful birds” mentioned by WW are later responsible for pecking out the eyes of the stepsisters, as punishment for their evil deeds. It’s no coincidence that these tales are called “Grimm’s”.
    P.S. @ Mitch4 – Not using blockquote was a good idea, but the preformatted version also defeats the word-wrap, so the ends of the lines fall off the template. This is unfortunate, because I think that everyone here would enjoy the idea of making that #%*+$ squirrel into a pair of shoes.

  13. I, too, thought that magic kept the shoe from fitting anyone but Cinderella.

    However,that just creates another problem: the prince didn’t know the shoe was magical, so the idea that the shoe would only fit one woman is rather suspect. And why on earth would he choose that approach over looking at the woman?

  14. Kilby: It’s fun to imagine the discussion at Disney about adapting the Grimm version for the movie: “I like the idea of having Cinderella having helpful birds, but . . . hmmm . . . what if having them help by pecking out her stepsisters’ eyes, they help her get dressed?”

  15. Most browsers allow you to see the page source in some fashion or the other. Looks like he use thef “pre” tag. It’s supposed to be used with pre-formatted text. Deprecated, I think.

  16. @Kilby
    >> It’s no coincidence that these tales are called “Grimm’s”.

    I suppose that it is not, given that they were collected, edited, and published by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm. It is, however, a coincidence the English word “grim” could apply to several of these tales, for “grim” entered the English vernacular centuries before the Brothers Grimm published their collections of folk tales.

  17. Cinderella wore her disguise at home, rather than at the ball: the ashes from the hearth and the rags she was given to wear would have been as effective as a mask in the understanding of medieval listeners. Back then, clothing made the man (or in this case, “princess”).
    P.S. @ I should have worded that “grim(m)” commentary differently, to make it clear that it was a tweak, and not intended literally.

  18. P.P.S. I have not figured out how to view page source code on tablet/phone browsers, but I was able to copy the preformatted paragraph and paste it into the “Notes” app, where the word wrap worked correctly. The problem with the template is that it is very narrow in portrait orientation, making it extremely likely that part of the preformatted text will disappear.

  19. I once heard that the slipper was meant to be green rather than glass…a mistranslation from French of ‘verre’ (glass) and ‘vert’ (green), which always made more sense to me. Who has glass slippers? However, I can’t find anything on the net to verify that, so this post is pointless apart from shattering my long held delusions.

  20. She was so different from her everyday appearance when cleaned up and given a makeover for the ball, that it should not be so surprising that he would not recognize her by general appearance and would need to apply the shoe test.

    I used “pre” tag to give that Wikipedia quote. The bad first try was a matter of it not performing any wrapping. The next one, I manually inserted line breaks – – and somewhat misjudged the width, which is why you may have seen it in a sliding insert.

  21. I always associate the phrase “Cinderella Story” with Bill Murray in “Caddyshack.”

  22. @ Mitch4 – It turns out that the width of the WordPress template is device dependent. Your manual line breaks work fine on a desktop browser, the major trouble I had before was just because I was reading on my phone. Rotating the phone to landscape increases the width (but not enough), but the font shrinks to the point that if I zoom in close enough to read it, then the text rolls off the edge of the screen. The scary thing is that this template was by far the best of the ones that Bill tested.

  23. Kilby/mitch4: That explanation has the a similar difficulty to the one that ja pointed out with the magical shoe solution. How does the prince know that her appearance will be totally different because she’ll be wearing rags and covered in ashes?

    Also, the stepsisters are presumably wearing nice clothes, and he starts to take each of them home once the shoe “fits” them, so he’s really just focusing on the shoe, regardless of what the woman is wearing and or looks like.

    (Most of these old fairy tales have stuff that doesn’t really make sense to modern readers, though.)

  24. One thing that surprised me with Firefox for hand-held (iPad in my case) was that there didn’t seem to be any way to change the font size as you can with the desktop version. There are some web pages that really are small type and no way that I could find to remedy that other than increase the size of the page. That doesn’t rewrap the text or anything so it’s of limited utility.

  25. Kilby: you can pour molten glass into a mold, and at least today there are glass formulations strong enough, so I don’t see why one couldn’t make glass shoes. Wouldn’t be that comfortable, but no crazier than wooden shoes…

  26. @ Dave – Yes, you could probably fashion a mold and make an object that looks like a shoe, but the effort involved would be astronomical, and I still think that it would not be wearable, as demonstrated in today’s Moderately Confused (one might wonder whether Jeff Stahler is lurking around CIDU):

  27. I got tired of looking long before I reached the end of the list, but as far as I can tell, Andréa was exceptionally careful in setting her quote marks: “…quite a few glass “shoes” and “glass” shoes available…” – in other words, none of them appears to be an actual pair of “glass shoes”.

  28. Remember glass can be blown as well, as any kind of glass vessel.

    Funny how popular image of the slippers is that they’re high-heeled. I don’t think they need to be.

    I think they’d be about as comfortable as wooden shoes.

  29. @ Grawlix – Wood has at least a little absorbancy. I think glass shoes would be more like impervious plastic, so that sweat from the wearer’s feet would make them both slippery and odiferous. I had a pair of rubber-toed Keds that were much the same.

  30. It was a pretty grim story originally with one stepsister cutting off her toes and the other her heel in an attempt to fit in the shoe.

    Most of us know the Disney version of fairly tales which are much more upbeat than the original. Only the two Disney versions of the Little Mermaid have happy endings.

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